Abi 3.0 should target compatibility issues

From: r coyne (duckingsnofair@yahoo.com)
Date: Mon Sep 22 2003 - 20:17:12 EDT

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    [If this belongs on the developer list, someone please
    forward; I've never gotten acquainted with that one.]

    Now that Abiword 2 is out, more or less (and people
    are even speaking of 2.2), it's time to put in my two
    cents worth on planning for Abi 3. Reading the posts
    here, I am continually struck (and appalled, and
    scared off) by how fragile abi is. One seems to need
    exactly the right versions of everything, or they
    won't work together and may cause very serious
    problems. What with various projects and developers
    and packagers and download sites all over the world
    working rather independently and asynchronously, this
    degree of coordination is not to be expected. And
    even if it were possible, purely from the user's point
    of view it is very inconvenient and offputting to have
    to upgrade everything at once rather than
    incrementally at leisure and maybe selectively. And
    what gets me is that I don't see why it has to be this
    way.

    Take plug-ins, for example -- a never-ending source of
    problems. I don't understand how plugins work, but
    surely it should be possible to vector them through
    some sort of table of pointers or jump addresses or
    instructions in such a way that any given
    function(ality) is guaranteed to be findable in the
    same place even as the actual code gets rewritten and
    moved around and new abilities added in future
    versions.

    I realize that abi is designed to run on a multitude
    of platforms and that this complicates matters. But
    don't all operating systems nowadays provide pretty
    much the same basics, like a directory tree,
    environmental variables, pipes, and so on? And if you
    stick with a programming language compiler/package
    that is widely available, won't it do a lot of the
    work of coordination, adapting to each OS it runs on?
    So if you take a lowest-common-denominator approach
    and if you spend enough time and effort early on, like
    now, working out the conventions for how the various
    routines, modules, files, programs, plugins, packages,
    etc. are supposed to find and communicate with each
    other, I would think you could come up with something
    less demanding and more robust than the present
    arrangements.

    And to the extent this requires discussions and
    agreements with other projects, get to it; attend
    those conferences. If somebody in the open-source
    world has to invent some conventions, why not abi?
    Design something that will do the trick and put out a
    RFC.

    And then, of course, there's the whole issue of
    intelligent, informative, crash-proof handling of
    error conditions, and the need for careful, loving
    attention to documentation.

    What I am saying, basically, is that with the release
    of 2.0, abi is probably approaching the point of
    diminishing returns to features. 3.0 should be about
    bulletproofing and getting it "ready for prime time";
    in other words, this is the time to "start over from
    the beginning and this time do it right," now that you
    understand the problems.

    But then, I haven't programmed in years and am far
    from au courant, so I'm just talking through my hat
    and may be totally wrong. And I do mean this as a
    what-the-user-wants tip for 3.0, not a criticism of 1
    and 2 or the developers who gave them to us. In the
    early versions, it was only natural and proper to
    concentrate on getting something up and running that
    would be worth using. I write this because I suspect
    that, especially in a decentralized, volunteer
    organization like abi, with no one exactly in charge
    and authorized to turn the whole thing on a dime,
    institutional habit and momentum may inhibit the sort
    of grand rethinking I'm talking about, even when it is needed.

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