From: Dom Lachowicz (email@example.com)
Date: Thu Nov 06 2003 - 20:41:32 EST
I don't want to be a downer, but I think that this is
horribly counter-productive in general and
destabilizing for the Abi tree. In short, I don't
think that anything will come of it. But I'd love to
be proven wrong.
If I had time to work on such a presentation program,
I don't think that I'd base it on the Abi framework.
At least not as things currently stand. There's 5+
years of accumulated cruft, hacks and misdesign in
there that need to be addressed before Abi moves on to
2.2 - let alone the perils I see arising when we
create a sister project.
Getting a presentation presentation program off the
ground needs a handful of sharp and fresh minds. Minds
whose willingness and dedication are virtually
unparalleled. And while I think we have some
preliminary interest (even from sharp minds like
Martin), I don't think that we have the community of
sharp minds that I think will be necessary for *Show
to be a success, let alone get off the ground.
--- Martin Sevior <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> Hi Folks,
> I've thought some more on Marc's AbiShow
> proposal and I now
> mostly agree with him.
> I think it unlikely that the Abi code base will be
> used for anything
> other text-based applications.
> Things like Word processors (!), Presentation
> Programs, (AbiShow), Print
> Master clones "AbiPrint ?" or maybe DTP software
> "AbiPage ?"
> The original developers of Abi has a much grander
> vision and though in
> terms of Spreadshets, database tools, graphics
> programs etc..
> Consequently the xap* part of our code base is
> rather sparse.
> If we instead go with the idea that we stick with
> the more limited set
> of programs, we might as well do as Marc suggested
> and do a move of a
> large fraction of wp into xap.
> Specifically these are:
> In the interests of getting AbiShow up and running
> quickly, I also
> suggest we fork ap_Frame*, ap_App*, ap_EditMethods,
> ap_Toolbar* into
> We also need two extra modes for fv_View.
> 1. Editting show pages.
> 2. running abishow
> We need to make new fv_View::_draw methods for
> drawing when in these
> We also need extra mouse contexts for running
> However we could get a program that display's static
> Abiword pages on a
> full screen and which advances with clicks rather
> At that point we could put out a call for volenteers
> to work on AbiShow
> and we'd also have a sensible framework for the
> other types of text
> based programs I mentioned.
> OK those are my thoughts. Do others have views?
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