Re: screenshot of ugly fonts

From: Joaquin Cuenca Abela (e98cuenc@yahoo.com)
Date: Tue May 28 2002 - 09:02:32 EDT

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    --- Sam Halliday <sam@neutrino.phy.uct.ac.za> wrote:
    > > > > They are not supposed to look nicer. This is a
    > X11 feature.
    > > > well, it seems odd to me that the same fonts
    > look nice in all the
    > > > rest of my apps... even this mail client,
    > sylpheed (which uses gtk+)
    > > > has nice looking fonts, the list is endless...
    > and i ahev several
    > > > WYSIWYG apps for various thigns, and the fonts
    > are OK in them...
    > > > what makes AbiWord so different?
    > > Those Apps make no attempt to print or to be
    > WYSIWYG. Your comment of
    > > the quality of AbiWord's printed output is exactly
    > the point. We only
    > > use scalable fonts. We only distribute *FREELY
    > distributable* scalable
    > > fonts.
    >
    > no, thats not true... one of the programs i use is
    > TeXmacs which is
    > WYSIWYG and also XMGrace for graphing (and who is
    > going to argue about
    > gv?)... these programs use freely distributable
    > fonts as well...

    These programs draws strings using its own code, not
    using core X calls. They render nice glyphs because
    they do their own antialising.

    If I remember right, the AbiWord fonts are the same as
    the gv ones. That's just what you get when you render
    them at low resolution and without antialias. (If I
    wrong here, please correct me. I don't have here my
    computer to check that)

    > in fact
    > you can just create symbolic links form the
    > ghostscript FREE fonts to
    > the XMGrace directory and have full control over
    > which fonts are
    > available to you... which is VERY helpful when you
    > try to stick to the
    > postscript font availability standards... TeXmacs
    > obviously being a
    > LaTeX editor has all the TeX fonts available to
    > it... also free.

    X don't supports Metafonts, so they are out of
    discussion.

    > don't think i'm bashing abiword here, i think it is
    > fantastic and i am
    > very impressed by it... i am just very intrigued as
    > to why the fonts are
    > so different to everything else on my system

    every app that you've enumerated does it in a
    different way. It's just that (except for TeXmacs)
    they don't have to care too much about interactive
    speed, and TeXmacs uses a completely different
    technology.

    >, and
    > also why it has to use
    > its own fonts and i can't seem to be able to just
    > delete the ones in the
    > distribution and replace with my own ghostscript
    > ones....

    Are you not able? What are your problems? I'm able
    to use truetype fonts and type 1 fonts here. I
    concede that several can go wrong (for instance, if
    you have fonts that don't have a lowercase extension),
    but it's doable.

    I've missed some emails, so if you're already posted a
    detailed explanation of your problems I've not seen
    it.

    Can you give us more details, please?

    Btw, all these problems will be fixed asap.

    Cheers,

    =====
    Joaquin Cuenca Abela
    e98cuenc@yahoo.com

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