Re: Tinderbox tyrant (wv issues)

Subject: Re: Tinderbox tyrant (wv issues)
From: Thomas Fletcher (
Date: Sun Oct 15 2000 - 15:25:02 CDT

Thomas opens mouth and inserts foot ...

On Sun, 15 Oct 2000, Mike Nordell wrote:
> Thomas Fletcher wrote:
> > On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Mike Nordell wrote:
> ["fd", tmpnam and portability snipped]
> >
> > Well whatever ... read/write/open are standard C file operations
> "standard C file operations"? Really? ;->
> Last time I checked open/read/write were not ANSI C, and I would be really,
> *really*, surprised if ANSI C 9x made it part of the library. That is the
> *only* "standard" I know about when discussing C. And even if they did vote
> these in it wouldn't affect the incorrectness of the code discussed. C++
> does not derive from C9x.

  Absolutely correct, I was wrong open/read/write are not part
of the ANSI standard, but are POSIXish standard. My mistake,
I was absolutely unabashedly wrong!

> > (as much as fread/fwrite/fopen) with less overhead than the
> > stdio FILE *.
> Overhead to create a FILE* from a _Unix-only_ "fd" compared to time time it
> actually takes to do the (probable) disk seek to locate the file on disk on
> most current platforms? Any recent profiling figures? ;->

Not necessarily overhead to create, but overhead to use. No
doubt this will turn into a "but you can configure the buffer
to do be appropriate for you" type of discussion. They both
have their uses ... my comment was an off the cuff dig at


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